Comments on: Top Boss Admits: We Used Tim Because He’s Black http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/news/top-boss-admits-we-used-tim-because-hes-black Official Website of York Vision Student Newspaper Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:55:21 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: anon http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/news/top-boss-admits-we-used-tim-because-hes-black/comment-page-1#comment-2355 anon Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:02:43 +0000 http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/?p=2569#comment-2355 The phrase 'white middle-class mafia' carries too many conspiratorial connotations but York's student body is overwhelmingly white and middle-class, as is the case at most European universities! Most of the non-white students are postgrads from overseas rather than working-class black people from large British cities. The phrase ‘white middle-class mafia’ carries too many conspiratorial connotations but York’s student body is overwhelmingly white and middle-class, as is the case at most European universities! Most of the non-white students are postgrads from overseas rather than working-class black people from large British cities.
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]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="517982895">Kelly Louise Holt</fb:name> http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/news/top-boss-admits-we-used-tim-because-hes-black/comment-page-1#comment-1675 Kelly Louise Holt Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:55:54 +0000 http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/?p=2569#comment-1675 I think that whilst there is evidently a massive problem with the video being scripted, and it raises questions about how much those on the council actually know about the day to day running of, and student experience at york, I'm with Michael. Lying to Tim Ngwena was completely unacceptable- I don't honestly believe for one minute that Jane Grenville is a racist, but I think she betrays an unfortunate attitude, that is seemingly ingrained in the management at the university. Take for example, the story reported in Vision a few issues back, in which a black student was approached for a photograph for the prospesctus, and automatically his photo was used in the 'International section'. He's a home student. The university claimed that the photos were randomly selected for each section, however, it's clear that using lacrosse pictures in the 'sports' section isn't all that random. The two separate stories, seemingly unrelated, suggest to me at least something a tad concerning about how this university WANTS to be perceived. Do they (and I mean the council and Jane Grenville here too) think that there is some sort of institutional racism going on, that they need to cover up or soften? Otherwise, why have the film remade? If they genuinely don't believe they are excluding black students, then why would they see a need to prove inclusion? I think that whilst there is evidently a massive problem with the video being scripted, and it raises questions about how much those on the council actually know about the day to day running of, and student experience at york, I’m with Michael.

Lying to Tim Ngwena was completely unacceptable- I don’t honestly believe for one minute that Jane Grenville is a racist, but I think she betrays an unfortunate attitude, that is seemingly ingrained in the management at the university.

Take for example, the story reported in Vision a few issues back, in which a black student was approached for a photograph for the prospesctus, and automatically his photo was used in the ‘International section’. He’s a home student. The university claimed that the photos were randomly selected for each section, however, it’s clear that using lacrosse pictures in the ’sports’ section isn’t all that random.

The two separate stories, seemingly unrelated, suggest to me at least something a tad concerning about how this university WANTS to be perceived. Do they (and I mean the council and Jane Grenville here too) think that there is some sort of institutional racism going on, that they need to cover up or soften? Otherwise, why have the film remade? If they genuinely don’t believe they are excluding black students, then why would they see a need to prove inclusion?

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]]> By: Colm http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/news/top-boss-admits-we-used-tim-because-hes-black/comment-page-1#comment-1673 Colm Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:19:45 +0000 http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/?p=2569#comment-1673 It would have been useful to give some statistics for the 'make-up' of the student populace so that the reader could place Jane Grenville's comments in context. My initial thought was that it probably would be more accurate a representation to have largely 'white' people in the film, if less politically correct, but on reflection this could be wrong. Certainly Grenville should have been clear about her thinking to Ngwena, who could then have objected. Also the subheader 'Decieved' is spelt incorrectly - '... except after c' guys. I would have refrained from being so pedantic but Michael Regan pointed out some mistakes in a comment elsewhere. It would have been useful to give some statistics for the ‘make-up’ of the student populace so that the reader could place Jane Grenville’s comments in context. My initial thought was that it probably would be more accurate a representation to have largely ‘white’ people in the film, if less politically correct, but on reflection this could be wrong. Certainly Grenville should have been clear about her thinking to Ngwena, who could then have objected.

Also the subheader ‘Decieved’ is spelt incorrectly – ‘… except after c’ guys. I would have refrained from being so pedantic but Michael Regan pointed out some mistakes in a comment elsewhere.

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]]> By: <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="507250090">Michael Regan</fb:name> http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/news/top-boss-admits-we-used-tim-because-hes-black/comment-page-1#comment-1672 Michael Regan Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:00:24 +0000 http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/?p=2569#comment-1672 I think lying to Tim about the reason he was being used is a pretty big issue actually. I think lying to Tim about the reason he was being used is a pretty big issue actually.
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]]> By: Anon http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/news/top-boss-admits-we-used-tim-because-hes-black/comment-page-1#comment-1669 Anon Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:22:14 +0000 http://www.yorkvision.co.uk/?p=2569#comment-1669 So, they wanted a video that didn't make our university look incredibly white and middle class. Big deal. The bigger issue is that the video was scripted. So, they wanted a video that didn’t make our university look incredibly white and middle class. Big deal.
The bigger issue is that the video was scripted.
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